FSU had three games they had to win all year to go to the National Championship game, Miami, Florida, and UVA sometimes. Granted Miami and Florida are no slouches and you deserve wherever you go if you beat both of those teams, but the ACC was pretty much a joke, Miami, Boston College, and Va Tech makes the ACC a stronger conference but the conference as a whole is not as competitive as the SEC, nor as athletic as a conference as a whole. BUT this is just my opinion. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]